11-3 Jr Flyers win. This is a down year for the Jr Flyers too.

TriState starting goalie came out real weak, the coach pulled him quick and put some new goalie in to play the rest of the game. Then it was a parade to the box for the TriState kids, many of them deserving though. I won't blame refs for some of the kids play, but hard to even be in a game with that many penalties.

I dont know the exact numbers for this game, but previous game 19 penatlies on TriState but game was much closer despite all the powerplay goals. Anybody know the totals from this game?

I'm not a big fan of the penalties to begin with, but especially bad ones by forwards.

Definitely will help bud when it comes down to recruiting local kids within that age bracket.

Snipe,

I am saving money. Three practices a week, 2 off ice a week (@Velocity). His team is at the bottom but he plays against good competition year round many times up north with lots of exposure. Hotel, bus on these trips is all covered and tuition is alot less than Most midget clubs when you add in the heavy travel expenses (hotel, gas, tolls).

The competition is much better than if he played Midget minor.

Close? Tri State had 10 shots on goal. The Jr. Flyers scored 17 seconds into the game. Scored their 2nd goal on the 2nd shift of the game. After the first period, they were bored to tears. Tri State coaches cried and whined all game long. They had no shame in the fact their team was on a constant march to the penalty box. 20 penalties! Tristate is an awful team and should be embarrased by their display. One of their players got tossed for yelling obscenities at the ref. That was after he took a roughing penalty for jumping someone from behind and then spearing him. Another player got stripped of a puck, fell down and took a one handed swing of his stick at the opposing player with a full 360 swing, catching the opposing player in the back of the legs, and had the nerve to cry that it wasn't a penalty. What an embarrasment. There is a reason they are in the bottom of their league- no discipline, and it starts @ the top.

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The score tells the story. Tri-State had trouble even controlling the puck when it was in their zone. Teams are on two different levels.

Its not necessarialy just down year for the Jr Flyers, the district just had 3 very good teams (Wally's Minutemen, NJ Coloniels)

Typically the Jr Flyers only have to beat Mercer a few times to make their annual trip to Nationals.

It is a down year that they are missing a game-breaking forward like O'neill (Last years line of O'neill, Milstead and Marrone was great)
Although Cottle, McDyre and Ikkla have a lot of chemistry

They also lost 2 of their defensemen for the year (Newman and Sarig)

Jigga,

Yeah will be down to the wire with VFMM and Jr Flyers. They are battling for 2nd and 3rd place. Not sure how districts are being handled this year but should be insteresting.

Gumper,

I agree about those penalties, totally embarrassing. I won't defend those penalties. But not all the players are that way. And your correct most games we lost probably came down to dumb penalties. The refs did the right thing by ejecting him.

The penalties is a double edged swrod for my son, he is usually out killing penalties which means plenty of ice time and practice. The flip side is its not very productive as a team and doesn't allow them to add to the offense much since killing penalties.

I don't know if 10 shots is accurate, they did have 3 goals and 1 was short handed that doesnt say much for the Jr Flyers goaltending. Especially since the game was 51 minutes in length and TriState had 40 minutes in penalties.

Jigga,

It will be interesting to see if Wally does the same thing with the VFMM. Or with losing a bunch of players does he bag next year as a U18.

Does Mercer try to bring back a U18? Does Comcast have a better U18 with the kids moving up from Midget minor or do a bunch of those kids leave for elsewhere? Like Ex jr Flyers return back to jr Flyers some off to prep Schools?

How many of those 89's are done U18 next year for bud?

I would have loved a shot at the Junior Flyers with the Hawks. No one can sit here and tell me Slagis, Campli, Haeberle, D'urbano, Orlando, Contipodero and the rest of the Hawks forwards couldn't play with the likes of Cottle and whoever else the Junior Flyers have.

Jigga,

BTW, Jr Flyers split with VFMM which says alot for VFMM since they are a much younger team.

Jr Flyers:
9 - 89's, 11-90's and 1-91 (Injured)
(1 kid playing up)

VFMM:
4 - 89's, 9-90's, 5-91's and 1-92.
(6 kids playing up)

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Boraske....

I do not mean for this to come off as offensive but how could you expect an 18AA team that's battle for 4th(?) place and a shot at the playoffs to a 18AAA team that lost in the finals at the Northwood tournament.

Slagis, Campli, Haeberle, D'Urbano, and yourself I think could play on a AAA team, but those guys wouldn't be 1st or 2nd line forwards with maybe the exception of Slagis.

It would come down to you're teams depth. I am not sure if the Hawks or any DVHL team has defensemen skilled enough to shut down some of the Flyers forwards. But thats why there is A, AA, and AAA.

Even if your top line shuts down (Cottle, McDyre, Ikkala)
who is left to match up with (Coll, Seravalli, Scannella) or (Latta, Strootman, Murray) I may be wrong on the lines but you get the jist. Jr Flyers have 4 forward lines which they can roll though, I doubt you're hawks team has played against forwards that fast all year. I just don't think a "struggling" team in the DVYHL would be able to beat a upper echlon AAA team, and nor should they in theory.

Trimback:

I'll bet if Wally has the depth to make the VFMM team again he will. But he will have to wait and see how many of his underclassmen return. I didn't see many AAA prospect players on La Salle II this year. I doubt if Mercer will field a 18AAA team between compeating for players with the AJHL rockets, EJHL Hitmen and now the Coloniels. But i would expect Knodel, Coll, Sarig, Newman, Kenny, and Latta to all be back next year. And remember Bud now has 2 feeder teams at Iceline the Jr B. and 16 team's.

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Unless something changes, im pretty sure Mercer is going to have a u-18 team next year.

Minutemen could definitely do it. Even though Wally has 10-11 kids from Lasalle this year, he was still able to bring in alot of talent from the outside. Even if there are only 4 or 5 Lasalle kids on the team next year, he can still bring in outside players. You wonder if he'll still want to do it though, knowing the majority of the team doesnt go to Lasalle. Btw, who is expected to leave from Lasalle? I heard from people that Schmidt, Pascal, Denczi, Tyson and Antoni are exploring options.

Comcast will lose half the kids from both their National and American midget teams. Of the kids that leave some will go to other teams, and others will be off to prep school, or play for their prep school full-time. Even if they do lose alot, they would still have plenty of talent to have very competetive midget u-18 team. Assuming they would bring the American kids up, because they will be losing half the team, so theres no sense in trying to keep them together.

Colonials will

Jr Flyers will

Doubt the Panthers will. Most will graduate, and their only playing there because they played last year as the Keystone Generals, and didnt have a league.

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Originally posted by Jigga Beef:
Boraske....

I do not mean for this to come off as offensive but how could you expect an 18AA team that's battle for 4th(?) place and a shot at the playoffs to a 18AAA team that lost in the finals at the Northwood tournament.

Slagis, Campli, Haeberle, D'Urbano, and yourself I think could play on a AAA team, but those guys wouldn't be 1st or 2nd line forwards with maybe the exception of Slagis.

It would come down to you're teams depth. I am not sure if the Hawks or any DVHL team has defensemen skilled enough to shut down some of the Flyers forwards. But thats why there is A, AA, and AAA.

Even if your top line shuts down (Cottle, McDyre, Ikkala)
who is left to match up with (Coll, Seravalli, Scannella) or (Latta, Strootman, Murray) I may be wrong on the lines but you get the jist. Jr Flyers have 4 forward lines which they can roll though, I doubt you're hawks team has played against forwards that fast all year. I just don't think a "struggling" team in the DVYHL would be able to beat a upper echlon AAA team, and nor should they in theory.

Jigga,

No offense taken. I agree, I'm sure the Jr Flyers have more depth and I think in the end, they would easily handle any 18AA team (including York, the Quakers and ourselves). However, I don't think we would lose 11-3, which was really my main reason in responding to this topic.

I suppose "handle" was the wrong word, especially after our defeat to Team Comcast a few weekends ago. Still, I would have liked a chance to play them, regardless of the result.

EDIT: After thinking about it more, I think you were a little unfair to suggest we are a "struggling" team in the DVHL, Jigga. We didn't lose a game to the top four teams with the exception of a 5-4 loss to Hershey where we pulled our goalie to try and get the win when it was 4-4. And you still may be right, we might not be able to beat them but I stand by my original point that we could at least give them a game.

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Boraske,

I believe the game before this one the Jr flyers won by 3 goals (5 power play goals), and 19 penalties against TriState.

TriState also beat Comcast U18, they have another game against Comcast coming up.

I saw the Jr flyers Tri State game and it wasnt a good one. Yea there were alot of penilties but regardles it was not close at all. Even if there werent that many penalties the Jr flyers would beat Tri State and maybe they did beat comcast but theyr a struggling Team as well.
Got a Question for you tho. Did Tri state play and beat the Jr flyers JR b team bc im pretty sure the 18 AAA and JR b try outs were at the same time. My point is why is a jr b team playing a jr flyers 18 AAA team that is most likely better then there own Jr b team.

Why they play who knows, my son just follows the schedule.

The Jr B Flyers haven't played TriState.