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The play on the 3rd goal for Lasalle was definitely a trip. I just don't think ref was in a good enough position to make the call.

In 2nd, when ghost appeared to take the lead, puck was not COMPLETELY over the line.

Great game by both teams. Lasalle was just a little better, but Ghost certainly matches up well with them.

And 1st goal was for Lasalle phenomenal. Great presence of mind to go up stairs on that back hand as he appeared to be falling.

Berardi was impressive after a tough game vs. Malvern.
 
Posts: 22 | Registered: 01 March 2007Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Originally posted by trimback:
Thanks guys.


Was anyone else surprised by Ghost's gameplan for the game? They kind of went to something we used to play in college when we were clearly overmatched - we used to call it "pick and dive". It consisted of us setting up a forward at the opposing team's blue line all game hoping for a breakaway and then diving to draw penalties to put us on the power play as much as possible. I thought Ghost was overmatched going in, but with how their goalie played and the fact that La Salle was snakebit for the first two periods I didn't think they needed to use such a desperate sort of gameplan. As for the goal that was waved off - TV broadcast clearly showed it sitting on the goalline even after the whistle went. Also, La Salle had a goal called back in the first that went in on a quick whistle from the ref, so that went both ways. As for the third goal - as a defenseman you can't try to steal a call from a referee near your own goal line. I'm sure there was some contact, but that kid went down like he was shot (and then performed a full barrel roll) trying to draw the call - HGP did that a couple of times with success during the game (including the younger Seravelli miraculously recovering from an extended dive during the third when a shot that went wide hit him during mid-writhing in pain behind the net; Italian soccer stars would have been proud) but you can't risk a move like that around your own net. Regardless, Berardi keep them afloat and La Salle showed trouble hitting open nets when they were there, but they managed to pull it out in the end. Hopefully they have their scoring sticks with them in Johnstown.


If the D went down as if he was shot then how did Berkle go down here

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Whistle or no whistle that puck never completely crossed the line before the LaSalle defensemen cleared it. The other play was close ....but not a trip. The LaSalle player had his stick firmly on the ice and the HGP player skated into him. good no call.

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Whistle or no whistle that puck never completely crossed the line before the LaSalle defensemen cleared it. The other play was close ....but not a trip. The LaSalle player had his stick firmly on the ice and the HGP player skated into him. good no call.


The trip was a terrible non call, potentially influencing the outcome of the game. The ref has gotta make that call.


It would have been a bad call to make since it wasn't actually a trip.
 
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If the D went down as if he was shot then how did Berkle go down here


Looks to me like Berkle got his feet pulled out from under him and immediately returned to play. Just another missed call I would say. And as for the "D", he was lying on the ice and was basically begging for a call. Poor excuse for hockey if you ask me. Reminds me of a JR. Flyers play.
 
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great hockey game. hgp did all it could to win the game, they played arguably their best game of the season. goaltending was fantastic on both ends. in the end lasalle jsut was the better team. i have to agree with family guy. call or no call you have to get up and play to the whistle, his failure to do so left number 11 wide open and he took full advantage. as to jimmy 18 and the comment on choking, winning the flyers cup against a tough opponent by any margin should not qualify as choking. no need for that comment.
 
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hmmmmmm.......
let's read back exactly what I said:

"Do you think LaSalle wins next week if they play the way they did today? When I saw them crush Judge last week, I didn't think that anyone could beat them, but now I think a team from out west can. They seem to have that potential to choke big time. Thoughts?"

The practice of taking people out of context on this board is getting a little out of control. Where does it say that I thought they choked last week?

So, let me clarify for you there buddy:
I think, based on their performance last week, they could choke next week. They are undoubtedly still the favorites next week right? I think that losing one game all season and then going out west and losing in Johnstown would be a choke, don't you? Am I saying they will choke? NO. COuld they? I THINK SO
So, do you think they will win?

I believe that this team should win. If they don't, I would qualify it as a choke. And I now see them as beatable. I would say that I thought they were rattled by HGP, and their play, and the score, reflected that. Hence, as I said: "They seem to have that potential to choke big time. Any comments?"

So. Any Comments?
 
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If the D went down as if he was shot then how did Berkle go down here


Looks to me like Berkle got his feet pulled out from under him and immediately returned to play. Just another missed call I would say. And as for the "D", he was lying on the ice and was basically begging for a call.


You're kidding, right?
 
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On that 3rd goal it was a pretty obvious trip. The only defense I think the ref could have is that he couldn't see it because of the net/goalie. Even if the D-man could have gotten right back up he never would have been able to recover in time to stop the goal.

Now this isn't saying the refs are the reason LaSalle won or HGP lost or anything like that. Just stating what I saw on the play. It was an amazing game to watch. Congrats to both teams in a hard fought game.
 
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my whole point is that to say that a loss in the state finals to a very good pine richland team would not constitute a choke. moreover to call a group of high school kids "chokers" if in fact they did lose goes over the top for my taste.
the fact that they won a tight 3-1 game (4-1 counting the empty net) means they won. unrealistic to expect a blow out versus a good,well coached team, who obviously plays them tough.
PA hockey will tell you that pr is the favorite(personal conversation earlier in the year). do i think they will win? i don't know, never saw pr play.
take care.
 
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Crusader,

You need to go look at the previews on www.pahockey.net

The AAA game is a very close call right now and although I have installed LaSalle as the favorite in the State Final, it can go either way. Toughest call since the 2004 Malvern - Mt Lebanon game and that one went to the wire.

Pray for no overtimes because the Johnstown Chiefs take the ice at 6:20 PM
 
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thanks batman, look forward to seeing you again. it should be a great game.
 
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Maybe we will see a 3 overtime repeat of the Conwell Egan - Meadville game in 1999. And they'll have to finish the game at Planet Ice or in Ebensburg Roll Eyes

Latrobe wanted to change the games to Sunday....then they wouldn't have to worry about overtime. Big Grin
 
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Sounds like a good idea. Move at least one or two of the games. Can you imagine the uproar if the A and AA games had so much overtime that they can't finish the AAA final before that 6:20 deadline.
 
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Originally posted by Pondhockey11:
Sounds like a good idea. Move at least one or two of the games. Can you imagine the uproar if the A and AA games had so much overtime that they can't finish the AAA final before that 6:20 deadline.


OK, Here's my question - there are more than one or two rinks in the state of PA, right? Why do the Flyers Cup people and the State Championship people feel the need to squeeze all three games into a 7 hour window? The Pennridge / Conestoge final was finished on ice that hadn't been cut for 6 periods of hockey just to appease the AAA final and a TV time slot. Now the State championship for all three levels has to be squeezed in before a minor league hockey game. Who's planning this stuff? Can they institute perhaps a little more foresight?
 
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Crusader,

You need to go look at the previews on www.pahockey.net

The AAA game is a very close call right now and although I have installed LaSalle as the favorite in the State Final, it can go either way. Toughest call since the 2004 Malvern - Mt Lebanon game and that one went to the wire.

Pray for no overtimes because the Johnstown Chiefs take the ice at 6:20 PM


Didn't Dicky Dunn pose that statement someplace else?

Dicky Dunn wrote that, it's gotta be true.

Luber25 answered it as well.
 
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