hkymom your players are a bunch of cheap shotting losers. they go down 7-2 haha that sucks, so lets try to hurt the fords players and punch their waterboy on the bench, pavelich is lucky none of our guys saw it happen. But on a brighter note the fords are in the finals, again. our fans were fine thats what home ice advantage gets you, they never attacked players or threw stuff at the team as they skated off the ice ie the stoga fans. if your stoga boys can't take some fans cursing at them they shouldn't play hockey so practice up for next yr will see u at states in april yeah fords

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hkyfan,
I could not agree with you more.
I have seen Iceline security clear about 100 students this year in a single game for their behavior. Players and fans who can't control themselves during a game should be removed and yes this statement includes my children as well.
I recently watched a Henderson game and secuirty politely went to the croud on several occassions to quiet certain chants and it was a pleasure to watch.
Old Tyme,
think about this...
Last night when a HH student threw something at the busdrivers window let's just say he loses control of that bus and hits the kids that were standing directly next to the bus on his right side and your son was among them... Feel any differently about it now?
The rink sets the tone for what unfolds and poor behavior should never be tolerated not on Stoga or anyone elses part. I do think the policemen outside were doing a outstanding job and if not for them we would not have felt safe in the situation.

Ok, some of these posts are a little out there. I was not present so I did not witness any of this nor am I trying to defend what took place.

Things like hkymom described are not just a problem in hockey. There are other sports that have faced far worse problems. Madison Square Garden hosted a championship basketball game recently. NY Championship Article There were brawls that started in the arena and spilled into the streets and subways. Things were so out of control they are considering legislation restricting championship games only to the day time. A google search will turn up hundreds of other instances of parent brawls, on field/court/ice incidents.

hkymom, I apologize, but you lose some credibility by omitting the behavior of the spectators from your organization from your post. From what Matt stated, the Stoga spectators placed the players from both teams in just as much risk as the HH fans. The following statement is not intended as a shot at you personally, but at youth sports in general. It has become far too common place to see people expect others to be held accountable for their actions, yet expect a pass on their own behavior.

Hockey is not a minor league sport, it is a regional sport. Unfortunately for local people who love hockey, we are a little too far south to be included in that. Cross into Canada and baseball is more of a minor league sport than curling. I think the bigger issue regarding fan behavior ties to school involvement. When Malvern and LaSalle played their semi at Hatfield a few years back the student sections switched ends between periods. They walked single file past each other no more than a foot apart and there was not a single incident. Both schools are involved and if there had any been anything, they both would have had to answer for their actions the following day at school.

Haverford will be making it's third consecutive appearance at states this season. They have never been anything other than a class act in both of their previous appearances and their coaching staff has always held their players accountable for their actions. I have no doubt they will continue to do the same going forward this season.

ok hkymom,
first of all, no one cares about what happened outside the skatium, after the game. You don't even know if they were fans that were watching the game, that "supposedly" threw a snowball at a bus. kids hang outside of the skatium all the time, some people never even stepping in the rink, or not even knowing what the flyers cup is. It is not the job of the skatium's security to watch over these kids when they are outside. There were 2 or 3 police cars outside of the skatium watching everybody, plus it is right next to the police station, and they didn't seem to have any problems. the real issue is how your fans and players acted during the game. maybe if your read my comment a little earlier you would have realized this.

Thank you Luber

None of what happened on either part should be excused lightly or tolerated to any degree at any rink.
The police were outstanding as I said an officer had the kid gone in seconds.
Best of luck to you tomorrow and in states.

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Hkymom, from the sounds of things, both teams and their fans were out of control to some extent. I'd concentrate not so much on what your opponents and their fans did as your own, simply because you have no control over them. Perhaps you can do some good for your own club, and hope others from HH do the same?

As it is, it amazes me that because of the action taken by the fans of these two teams, all focus seems to have been taken off the ice and placed in the stands. That's just not what hockey is supposed to be about. Even though the fans were out of control, two of the best teams from our area met up in a high stakes game, and we've barely talked about the game itself.

Sad,sad,sad.

Luber,
My credibility is just fine. I pulled up to the rink as the game was ending. I had a work commitment. I would be extremely upset to say the least if I witnessed what you guys say happened on their end of things.
Why didn't we have these problems in the building when the two faced one another at iceline in Dec?

I will look at our security procedures very differntly after this. Bottom line is both teams must feel safe.

Unfortunately, these types of events are commonplace.

The leagues need to get control of this before they are compelled to following an injury, a riot, or something of that nature.IT's been going on for a long, long time. It's not tolerated in other high school sports in our area...The f*** you chants...the boorish behavior of players and fans is not tolerable yet it is tolerated in hockey. And I do blame, partially, the NHL for creating an anything goes environment in our sport that is unacceptable in others.

i used to enjoy reading these forums and respected what people had to say about highschool hockey. but this thread has gone too far and this is not what these forums should be about, they should be more about friendly talks about how good teams are and what a joy highschool hockey really is.

Yes this post has gone far too far I was only talking about the ON ICE problems that happened

But yes it actually is Skatiums responsibility as to what happens outside the rink if it on their property.

The reason this didn’t happen at IceLine is because not as many fans were at the game and it was not a flyers cup semi final game.

Regardless of either teams fans, from what I saw on the ice Conestoga was playing a dirtier game that Haverford but Haverford answered back with mostly clean hard checks.

Most of the problem started in front of the HH net in the 2nd period when a Conestoga player had to be restrained by 2 of his own players and a ref when he tried to go after Campli. He tried at least 3 times to get at Campli this holding back had to last for about 2 minutes, its not like he gave up after it was separated the first time.

Either way we should drop this topic, both teams’ fans did some classless stuff but I guess I only managed to catch the Conestoga fans throwing stuff on the ice and with the laser pointer thing.

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Originally posted by fords54:
yes i remember it all starting when the stoga player cheap-shotted baker in the knees

The hit was clean(a hip check) the celebration wasnt needed.

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Originally posted by hhshockey6:
so lets try to hurt the fords players and punch their waterboy on the bench, pavelich is lucky none of our guys saw it happen.

i was on the ice, unlike you
and i love how your friend said #6 will wreck me, i saw that you were on the ice maybe once, its hard to wreck me when im out there and you are on the bench.

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Originally posted by hhshockey6:
they never attacked players or threw stuff at the team

0/2 so far, get you fact straight! i got pizza and a bottle thrown at me while i was in the penalty box

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Originally posted by Jigga Beef:
Most of the problem started in front of the HH net in the 2nd period when a Conestoga player had to be restrained by 2 of his own players and a ref when he tried to go after Campli.

The Conestoga player just had Hazleton(goalie one) throw the puck in his face after a save. a class-less act? maybe?

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Either way we should drop this topic

You cant say that after talking trash on a 'stoga player as you just did

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Both teams and their fans are classless. Ridley isn't any better, or Interboro, Lower Merion, Penncrest, etc etc. There's few, if any, teams out there that you can say are 100% classy with 100% classy fans.

It's a dirty, physical sport, and often players and fans let their emotions get the best of them. Stoga scored on me on a breakaway 7 seconds into the game (and then 6 more times) and after each goal, their fans let me know that I suck with a chant I wouldn't particularly call "classy". (Hey goalie, you suck!)

Did it bother me? No. Did I whine on these forums about it? No. We lost 7-1 yet I wasn't on this message complaining about Stogas fans. Granted this situation was considerably worse than just that chant, but it just goes to show you that Stoga was hardly a class act throughout the season, in fact, there probably isn't a team that was.

Can't we just get back to the actual game, and ignore this off ice bull****? Both teams and their fans were wrong, but it just goes with the sport. I don't like it, few of us here do, but we chose high school hockey, and now we, and our parents, have to live with it.

I just don't see it changing any time soon.

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Originally posted by Boraske33:
Stoga scored on me on a breakaway 7 seconds into the game (and then 6 more times) and after each goal, their fans let me know that I suck with a chant I wouldn't particularly call "classy". (Hey goalie, you suck!)

the chant worked if you remember it 5 months later

Edit:
the score was 7-0 not 7-1, and it was a solid victory for stoga and it's loyal fans

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