great valley played upper dublin to a5-5 tie. not sure what that says about the league that they play in or what it says about the team in general. also greta valley beat springfield montco 6-1 once again what does this say about there league.

Upper Dublin's starting goalie was out with a concussion for that game.

Great Valley struggled to beat LaSalle IV (3 - 1, with LaSalle's back up goalie playing), can't explain the Springfield game.

i could be slightly off but i think the ischl north went 17-2-1 against the suburban.

slightly off is correct..

PV 3-2-0
Met 4-0-0
S-F 0-6-0
Boy 2-3-1 (includes 1 forfeit)
GrV 4-1-1
PsX 5-1-0 (includes 1 forfeit)
Coa 2-4-0 (includes 1 forfeit)

Overall 20-17-2 (if my math is right) ICSHL-North vs SHSHL teams, take out the 3 forfeits for teams not showing up (or even not existing {Cheltenham}), and its dead even.

The crossovers included some very strong SHSHL teams (Pennridge) and some very weak ones (Norristown, Lansdale Catholic).

sorry should have expounded on that point, was speaking of suburban A north and south versus icshl A north . since we are talking about the A cup .

That would change the math. The trap is:
A beats B, B beats C, C beats D, D beats A, so who's better?

We have to provide some consideration of the overall schedule played by each team--everybody is entitled to a bad game or two (missing the varsity goaltender, etc.) My intention (given a 20 team field) is that everyone +.500 should get in unless their strength of schedule is much harder or much easier than the "average" A level schedule. The ICSHL got 8 "A" teams in the 20-team field, so I suspect we are fairly represented.

Father Rico,

ICSHL North is a mixed league of A and AA teams

Methacton is in Flyers Cup AA, I believe the ICSHL "A" teams are Perk Valley, Pius X, and Great Valley. Yes they went 12 - 2 - 1 against Suburban A - 7 of those wins were against the weaker North Division teams (5 against Norristown and Lansdale Catholic), and 2 wins against LaSalle IV (4 wins) in the south division.

So that makes them 3 - 1 - 1 against the top 4 teams in SHSHL.

So what does it all mean??? The Lower half of the SHSHL is weak. Springfield (Montco) getting in was a mild surprise, but what other true "A" team with a .500 record or better was left out of "A"?????

Methacton played an A schedule for crossover games while the rest of the AA teams played AA teams

I brought that up at the meeting, it didn't help (Spring-Ford in particular) who was 0-6-0 against SHSHL AA teams while Methacton was 6-0-0 against SHSHL A teams.

If you take away all of those crossover games both Methacton and Springford had almost identical records and split head-to-head games.

Then it became a question of weather Methacton really belonged rather than does Spring-Ford get in.

I think I'd be a little upset about that if I was Springford, they played a tough crossover schedule including 3 Flyers cup AA teams and both LaSalle AA teams.

Methacton breezed through those SHSHL A teams (including Norristown twice), with the closest game being against LaSalle IV (a 3 - 1 win that Methacton dominated but almost got caught looking beyond them by an outstanding effort by LaSalle's goalie).

The question is whether or not Methacton has any chance against pennridge, or else this is just a moot point.

They have a chance, they have some AAA club players on their roster.

If there was any question about SF getting in, I think they justified the board's decision by losing to Pius last night 6-4 in the first round of the playoffs.

Methacton has a very good chance against Pennridge. I think it's a pretty tough draw for PR. One key will be if Pennridge gets a little beatup in a potential 3-game series with LaSalle Gold (PR up 1 game to 0) this week. How will that affect them ? Methacton has to be disciplined though, can't take the bad penalty.

Pennridge beat 2 good teams down the stretch with a forward in goal. I would bet regardless of the SHSHL playoffs Pennridge will have little trouble getting past Methacton. No disrespect intended towards Methacton. I just believe Pennridge is that good. What I think is tough for them is that they end up on the same side of the bracket as Haverford. The winner of that game I believe will win the whole deal.