Ducks and Quakers had evaluations. Ducks will be weaker than last year, Quakers appear to be strong. Have Hawks had their evaluations?

Who is on that Quaker team to make them so good?

Royals?

Nice team - you think they can hang with JRF 18u or would they get smoked?

Quakers looked like they have put together a nice team and will probably win the DVHL but i think that the jrF 18U team would beat them. After a tough season last year the jrF look like they put together a decent team.

HockeyTime - we agree that Quakers will be strong, though I do not think that JRF18u will be any better than last year, just that there is little competition in their league. You could even pose the same question as how the Quakers 18u team would compete with the JRF Jr B team. (I would keep the Jr A team out of the mix because presumably they will be high school graduates and more 19, 20 year olds with less 17 and 18 year olds.) It's interesting that Iceline can put 3 teams from 3 different programs and still be relatively strong at each one. How interesting would it be if just the 3 teams played a round robin tournament formatted wins, losses, ties, goals for and goals against to determine the winner. It would be all out all the time, pedal to the metal!

Anyone know who is on the JRF JrB team roster?

“About 1/3 of the kids on the Quaker team didn't make either of the Jr. Flyer teams.”


So you say 5 or 6 kids did not make either the 18u team or the Jr B team. Ok, and how many Quaker players could have made either one of those teams if they did tryout – 3? 4? more? Sometimes the best players do not play the highest levels because they do not want to commit to the time or for financial reasons, or girlfriend and friends or schoolwork or so on. I think the Quakers18AA would fare as well or better than CP18u or TC18u did against JRF18u last season. You never really know though unless the games are played.

Snipe, you do not know anything about hockey, especially in this area the only difference in AAA and AA is the money. Most of the AA squads could compete with all of the AAA squads around this area. There is no big difference in talent level at all, I played AA all my life and was asked numerous times to play AAA as well as many of my fellow teammates from Hawks and yes, when the Beast were around, most of us could not afford to pay $4000 a year or other reasons like theposter stated, you prob. are on your high horse because you either play AAA or your son plays AAA and you look down on AA, Snipe, you have no idea. My 18AA Hawks team, even though we blew it ourselves would prob compete and or beat some of the AAA teams, personally, I think the only team that would give Hawks, Quakers or York any trouble would be MM18AAA. Snipe, you sir are an idiot

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Jay's going to Penn State Brandywine and I'm pretty sure he's playing for Carl Wood's/Gilligan's team. Right, Jay?

I'm going to St. Joe's as of right now, though there's still an off chance I might go to Villanova (waiting on Wait Listed Decision). As for hockey, I'm not sure. I've talked with both coaches briefly but I'm mostly banking on hopefully making the team as a backup based on tryouts alone or what have you as a freshmen and seeing how things go from there.

Will the Hawk players please please stop comparing themselves to York, Quakers, etc. Two years in a row you finished out the money, and now after the fact, you want to come on here and say only the VFMM 18AAA would give you any trouble? Part of your teams problem was your arrogance and the preordaining you did of yourselves. You were a good hockey team who could never get it done when it counted. Make the DVHL playoffs first before you start talking crap on the 18AAA teams. You were not as good as York, you were not as good as Quakers, you were not as good as Hershey, just because you beat them teams, does not make you as good. It is what you do over the long haul that makes you good, all of those teams did it better over the whole season. This is not to take away from you as a team, as I stated, you were a very good AA team, but there were quite a few teams better than you, stop acting like you were the cream of the crop and needed AAA for real competition. You did not make the playoffs either of the last 2 years.

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You were not as good as York, you were not as good as Quakers, you were not as good as Hershey, just because you beat them teams, does not make you as good.

This is where I stopped reading your post. We trounced York 4-0 in their home rink, but we "weren't as good as them" just because we had a few bad games that cost us the playoffs. Scratch that. We shouldn't "compare ourselves to them." Right. Makes perfect sense. If anything, your point proves the opposite; we were better (skill wise), we just had some brain farts in games we should have won and thus missed the playoffs.

And let's not even get into the oh-so-awesome scheduling of the DVHL...

Also, you probably won't agree with my post, but unlike yourself, I like to compare teams against eachother, not by what they did against other teams. So, you may say, Hawks lost to Lancaster, York beat Lancaster, so York is better than Haverford despite the fact that Haverford beat York.

That is your post, summed up in a nuthsell, and I think it's kind of silly. Agree to disagree, I suppose.

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And you just proved my point! Yes, you may have had as much talent as any team, but while you were congratulating yourself for beating York, they were getting ready for Districts. You like to compare teams against each other, I like to compare what teams actually accomplish.
The last 2 years for the Hawks have been a whole series of coulda, woulda, shoulda. I am glad you have a whole lot of confidence in yourselves, but my maybe a humble pill along the way would have helped. It funny to read on here about the AAA thing and how you were as good as anyone, and then about how you were better than York because you beat them once. My point is this, you accomplished nothing compared to the 4 DVHL playoff teams, and even less than that compared to York over the last 2 years. Keep whining about the DVHL schedule, Quakers and York got in under the same schedule as you, but you are right, you are better than all those teams, just a couple of bad breaks along the way.
If you go back and read all posts made about this team, you would have thought you at least made Nationals, not be a 5th place DVHL team.

As you said though, agree to disagree, I see a team that should have been better than it was, but talks like it was great.

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One player's opinion does not represent the attitude of an entire team. How many Hawks players do you personally know? I come from a team of players that, yes, believed in ourselves, and believed we were as good if not better than any team out there in our league. I think most players/teams should and do believe that. Never were we cocky or full of ourselves, add an extra A to the end of our team name or maybe look at some local Junior teams before you start calling us cocky.

We didn't get things done like we should have, and obviously, we accomplished little compared to the teams who made Districts. I'm not disputing that; I'm arguing with you because you said "we shouldn't compare ourselves" to York and the Quakers simply because we didn't make the playoffs and they did. I understand your point, but I am completely at a loss as to how you can disregard our performance against the teams which you deem "better than us." Ties and wins against top opponents make you a good, at the very least, competitive team, even if you don't make it all the way in the end.

Our record against York the past two seasons is, including an X-Mas tourney game, 2-1-2. Now, that record does not indicate that one team is leaps and bounds above the other, especially the team with fewer wins. If you really want to say York was that much better than us because they accomplished more, fine, go ahead. In a tiny way, I agree with you that accomplishments should be a factor when comparing teams, but not to the extent you are making it out to be. To completely disregard how the teams fared against one another is contrary to.. uh, well.. contrary to common sense.

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You must of not read my statement, because i said a number of times, that you were a very good team, and very talented. I originally responded to Mandell making the point that only VFMM AAA to could give you, Quakers or York a game. I found that funny since you did not make playoffs last 2 seasons. I did not call you cocky, I said take a humble pill. All I heard was that Hershey was trash and Blast sucked and had no business going ( this is my take from reading posts), I am not diminishing anyhting you accomplished against the top teams, but in the end it meant nothing.