Gryphon - many posts suggested Jersey teams were not as strong this year because, in non-league play between the top teams from each league, the DVHL teams were consistently winning, or in our case, tying. I guess justquit's point about the High School season taking away some of their players did have some validity after all.

Snipe, Pond, I agree with Mandell in that I think we (the Hawks for anyone who isn't sure) would have done better and been more competitve in Districts than the Hershey or Blast. I do not think we would have rolled through Districts by any means, but our performance against tougher competition throughout the season (2-0-4; I refuse to count Hershey as a loss since we would have at least tied were it not for the circumstances) indicate that we play better against better competition.

well maybe you can blame it on the coaching staff for playing the same 5-6 guys who were not as productive as they should have been. quakers, york and most of the other coaches caught on to what your coaches were doing!

As usual Boraske, you make a lot of sense. The NJYHL teams at this age group basically shut down right after Thanksgiving and concentrate on HS. In Dec/Jan/Feb, the DVHL teams are going strong and fighting for playoff spots. Any non-league games that take place with Jersey teams between Thanksgiving and probably mid February are of little significance to them.

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Originally posted by hockeyheads:
well maybe you can blame it on the coaching staff for playing the same 5-6 guys who were not as productive as they should have been. quakers, york and most of the other coaches caught on to what your coaches were doing!

We did play Campli, Slagis, Haeberle, Orlando, and Contipoderro an awful lot, but I felt we did a good job mixing things up. When push came to shove, yes, you'd generally find those players on the ice. However, players like Steve Vernacchio, Rob D'Urbano especially, Mike Walsh, and Will Senatore all could step on the ice at any given time and come up with a big play. I felt we did a pretty good job of weaving in the rest of the team with our main line, though I agree the better teams honed in on TJ, Slagis, and Campli the most.

Wanna talk about just the teams that "actually MADE the playoffs?" Then make a topic for 18AA Districts. I see nothing wrong with talking about 18AA teams that ALMOST made the playoffs in the 18AA topic, do you?

York - 4
Hershey - 2

Quakers - 3
Jaguars - 2

Eagles and Brick - no legitimate guess, haven't seen either team.

Flyers Youth - 5
Blast - 1

I think you can learn quite a bit from rationalizing failure. If recognizing or at least trying to recognize why you failed, isn't it only logical to think you won't make those mistakes again? In trying to make sense of a loss, are you not learning in the process?

Also, not that I feel any need to justify my posts to you (no offense), but I was only responding to hockeyheads, who had made a comment about us playing a select 5-6 players and other teams picking up on this and exploiting it. If you really have a problem with the Hawks and all Hawks related discussion, then take your argument up with him.

I will keep talking about the 18AA team I played for in the 18AA topic, whether you see something wrong with it or not.

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Real scores:

York - 4
Hershey - 2

Hershey goes 0-2 and are done. There's a shocker. Good call on them going all the way, Snipe.

Flyers Youth - 6
Blast - 4

Blast goes 0-2 and are done. Another surprise.

Look at that. I was pretty much spot on 2/3 and I picked the right winner in the third, just by the wrong margin. I should have remembered the Flyers Youth goalie didn't seem "outstanding" when we played them.

Snipe, you keep saying how surprised you are, but I still don't know why. Did you think all that we said was bitter speak? Hershey had an easy schedule and about 6 people got on here to complain about the reffing in Hershey. Yes, they are a talented team, no one is denying that but they weren't going to advance in Districts when they arrived through such murky circumstances.

against who, Ducks 2 or Quakers 2?

Flyers Youth over York 3-2 in OT

Brick big over Jags 10-1

Tomorrow am:
Winner bracket - Quakers v. Eagles
Loser bracket - FY v. Brick

After all the talk about how strong the DVHL was compared to the NJYHL this year at U18AA, I guess I shouldn't be surprised that the results of the playoffs haven't been posted yet. DVHL has been knocked out and 2 NJYHL teams go to the championships next weekend. It will be the American Eagles vs the Flyers Youth.

I was very disappointed by the Jaguars early bow out. I'm wondering if HS playoff games had anything to do with their poor showing or if they just self-destructed?

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Originally posted by Snipe:
18UA finals had 70+ penalties in it, 31 for Hawks (I think) and 43 for AC Sharks.

Is that for real? That's a disgrace!

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18UA finals had 70+ penalties in it, 31 for Hawks (I think) and 43 for AC Sharks.

WOW - and they ran that as a 2-man.
Can't wait to talk to the refs.

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Originally posted by Snipe:
Yea I do see something wrong with it. I see you rationalizing why you didn't make it instead of learning from your failure. Same issues from most of that group year after year. Poorly run bench, players turning on each other when things get tough, finger pointing, not controlling your emotions. Other than that it's fine.

I agree with Snipe with reguards to the Hawks. Although personally after watching all the DVHL teams I thought the Hawks were the only shot the DVHL had at a National Bound team but they choked. The outcome was no surprise with Hershey and the Blast who waisting there time even showing up. York and the Quakers, there was no doubt they could hang but in the end the American Eagles were a sleeper team who didn't spend much time worrying about rankings, stats and all that nonsense. They will be packing their bags on the way to Nationals. The Flyers Youth are a nice team with a generic style that got them to the finals. Kudos to them but I doubt they will get past the Eagles.

On another note, I heard the 18A was more like a prison football game rather then a hockey game. 70 Penalties, those players and coaches should be banned for the next season and their clubs should be sanctioned for that disgrace.

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Originally posted by Snipe:
I don't think I would call the highest ranked team in the district a sleeper. Anyone who knew the 18UAA level knew the Eagles were the CBA team who are very comparable to the VFMM/LaSalle team, not quite as strong. DVHL did not have a good weekend.

It sure sounds like sour grapes when you say Hershey had no shot, they played a number of top 30 Tier I teams this year and hung with all of them, beat a few.

There was a lot of hype and talk about other teams compared to the Eagles. Nobody really mentioned them and all of sudden look who is the front runner.

There is no sour grapes with any team. I watched these teams play and the outcome was no surprise. Both Hershey and the Blast were not in the same ballpark as the rest of the teams (in my opinion).